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		<title>By: An Exercise Update - Hey, What&#8217;s That White Dust? &#183; System 13</title>
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		<dc:creator>An Exercise Update - Hey, What&#8217;s That White Dust? &#183; System 13</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 24 Jun 2008 02:24:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] keeping with making myself accountable, I figured I&#8217;d let everyone know how my exercise habit is coming along. There&#8217;s good [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/05/24/me-versus-making-new-habits/#comment-43135</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 20:37:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LearningNerd: Thanks for the link on that, will definitely check it out. I've read Steve Pavlina's stuff in the past; some I liked, some was a little bit out there. 

Me, I'm not guilty of thinking too much. Never. At least, I don't think so. Well, maybe. I'll have to think about it... ;) 

I've never really had an issue with getting up early. Whenever I set the alarm for, I &lt;em&gt;generally&lt;/em&gt; get up immediately after it goes off. It's making myself go to bed that's the problem. 

Nils: Abandonitis. Duly noted and stolen for later use. :)

And yeah, I think Tom's right. Environment and planning is going to play a role in my habits, but alas, there's still got to be a fair amount of "damnit, Josh, get up and &lt;em&gt;do this&lt;/em&gt;." 

So, lemme' get this straight. If I slack off on exercising, I'm supposed to remind you to remind me to stay with it?

As you said: oh dear.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>LearningNerd: Thanks for the link on that, will definitely check it out. I&#8217;ve read Steve Pavlina&#8217;s stuff in the past; some I liked, some was a little bit out there. </p>
<p>Me, I&#8217;m not guilty of thinking too much. Never. At least, I don&#8217;t think so. Well, maybe. I&#8217;ll have to think about it&#8230; <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve never really had an issue with getting up early. Whenever I set the alarm for, I <em>generally</em> get up immediately after it goes off. It&#8217;s making myself go to bed that&#8217;s the problem. </p>
<p>Nils: Abandonitis. Duly noted and stolen for later use. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>And yeah, I think Tom&#8217;s right. Environment and planning is going to play a role in my habits, but alas, there&#8217;s still got to be a fair amount of &#8220;damnit, Josh, get up and <em>do this</em>.&#8221; </p>
<p>So, lemme&#8217; get this straight. If I slack off on exercising, I&#8217;m supposed to remind you to remind me to stay with it?</p>
<p>As you said: oh dear.</p>
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		<title>By: Nils Geylen</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/05/24/me-versus-making-new-habits/#comment-43131</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils Geylen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 19:53:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oh dear, oh dear. I'm so the same... I have this "abandonitis" with posting, commenting, exercising, getting a driver's license, quitting smoking, planning things, planning *less* things... You catch my drift.

I do fear Tom is right, though. You have to be merciless, in your motivation and towards your own behaviour.

Oh, and I'm also bad at reminding others what they were supposed to do. So, if I don't call you on it, you call me on it okay?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oh dear, oh dear. I&#8217;m so the same&#8230; I have this &#8220;abandonitis&#8221; with posting, commenting, exercising, getting a driver&#8217;s license, quitting smoking, planning things, planning *less* things&#8230; You catch my drift.</p>
<p>I do fear Tom is right, though. You have to be merciless, in your motivation and towards your own behaviour.</p>
<p>Oh, and I&#8217;m also bad at reminding others what they were supposed to do. So, if I don&#8217;t call you on it, you call me on it okay?</p>
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		<title>By: LearningNerd</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/05/24/me-versus-making-new-habits/#comment-43130</link>
		<dc:creator>LearningNerd</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 May 2008 19:51:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm struggling with the same problem, especially with habits that are &lt;em&gt;not&lt;/em&gt; daily. And I just now ran across a new article by Steve Pavlina: &lt;a href="http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2008/05/how-to-maintain-not-quite-daily-habits/" rel="nofollow"&gt;How to Maintain Not-Quite-Daily Habits&lt;/a&gt;. He writes some good stuff!

Anyway, I find that my problem is thinking about things too much, rather than just doing them. Like trying to wake up early. The alarm wakes me up, I got enough sleep, but then I think, "It'd be so nice to sleep just a bit longer! Do I really need to get up now?" The only way to do it is to jump out of bed and start the day, without second thoughts.

But how to actually stop yourself from thinking... That's the problem!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m struggling with the same problem, especially with habits that are <em>not</em> daily. And I just now ran across a new article by Steve Pavlina: <a href="http://www.stevepavlina.com/blog/2008/05/how-to-maintain-not-quite-daily-habits/" rel="nofollow">How to Maintain Not-Quite-Daily Habits</a>. He writes some good stuff!</p>
<p>Anyway, I find that my problem is thinking about things too much, rather than just doing them. Like trying to wake up early. The alarm wakes me up, I got enough sleep, but then I think, &#8220;It&#8217;d be so nice to sleep just a bit longer! Do I really need to get up now?&#8221; The only way to do it is to jump out of bed and start the day, without second thoughts.</p>
<p>But how to actually stop yourself from thinking&#8230; That&#8217;s the problem!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/05/24/me-versus-making-new-habits/#comment-43072</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 May 2008 03:41:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tom: I like the idea of looking at choices labeled as either "success" or "failure"; it makes things a bit more clear cut. Of course, there's lots of gray in life, but when it comes to being healthier, there's really no way to say that exercising is a failure and sitting on your arse reading feeds is a success. ;) 

&lt;blockquote&gt;Not being perfect is what we all suffer from, knowing about it though, is a step in the right direction.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I think I may start a quote notebook / text file, and that'll be the first one in it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tom: I like the idea of looking at choices labeled as either &#8220;success&#8221; or &#8220;failure&#8221;; it makes things a bit more clear cut. Of course, there&#8217;s lots of gray in life, but when it comes to being healthier, there&#8217;s really no way to say that exercising is a failure and sitting on your arse reading feeds is a success. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<blockquote><p>Not being perfect is what we all suffer from, knowing about it though, is a step in the right direction.</p></blockquote>
<p>I think I may start a quote notebook / text file, and that&#8217;ll be the first one in it.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/05/24/me-versus-making-new-habits/#comment-43033</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 May 2008 05:36:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm convinced that to form new habits only bruteforce willpower and constant present-mindedness will work.  You have to be consciously making the right choice every second of every minute, that requires a constant awareness of the present moment.  The willpower is the actual force that will make that right choice at each one of those seconds.  

That's the only way I've ever succeeded.  Every time I tried to trick myself by some fancy tactic, I could always reason my way out of it.  However, when I took the range of possible choices and label one "success" and all of the rest "failure", then constantly asked myself if I want to succeed or fail, the choices become easy after that.  It's kind of like passing the buck onto the higher philosophical level, it stops becoming an issue about a specific habit and turns into a desire for success. 

That's how I do it.  Though that probably doesn't make sense to anyone else :).

Good luck mate.  As I always say, at least your aware of your place in this web of desires and shortcomings, which is more than can be said for many people who don't even give their life a second look.  Not being perfect is what we all suffer from, knowing about it though, is a step in the right direction.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m convinced that to form new habits only bruteforce willpower and constant present-mindedness will work.  You have to be consciously making the right choice every second of every minute, that requires a constant awareness of the present moment.  The willpower is the actual force that will make that right choice at each one of those seconds.  </p>
<p>That&#8217;s the only way I&#8217;ve ever succeeded.  Every time I tried to trick myself by some fancy tactic, I could always reason my way out of it.  However, when I took the range of possible choices and label one &#8220;success&#8221; and all of the rest &#8220;failure&#8221;, then constantly asked myself if I want to succeed or fail, the choices become easy after that.  It&#8217;s kind of like passing the buck onto the higher philosophical level, it stops becoming an issue about a specific habit and turns into a desire for success. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s how I do it.  Though that probably doesn&#8217;t make sense to anyone else :).</p>
<p>Good luck mate.  As I always say, at least your aware of your place in this web of desires and shortcomings, which is more than can be said for many people who don&#8217;t even give their life a second look.  Not being perfect is what we all suffer from, knowing about it though, is a step in the right direction.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/05/24/me-versus-making-new-habits/#comment-42956</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 17:19:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;blockquote&gt;I guess thatâ€™s how Iâ€™ve lead my life. Changing habits or making new ones regardless depends on how much I wanted to change. They stuck because I want them to stick. I guess I didnâ€™t think of whether or not Iâ€™ll go back to what was before. I justâ€¦went with the flow.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

Man, I wish I worked like that! Despite how bad I've wanted to make these things habits, when I've tried to make them habits by just "wanting to do it" and going with the flow, I always flow right back to my former habits :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<blockquote><p>I guess thatâ€™s how Iâ€™ve lead my life. Changing habits or making new ones regardless depends on how much I wanted to change. They stuck because I want them to stick. I guess I didnâ€™t think of whether or not Iâ€™ll go back to what was before. I justâ€¦went with the flow.</p></blockquote>
<p>Man, I wish I worked like that! Despite how bad I&#8217;ve wanted to make these things habits, when I&#8217;ve tried to make them habits by just &#8220;wanting to do it&#8221; and going with the flow, I always flow right back to my former habits <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Edrei</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/05/24/me-versus-making-new-habits/#comment-42939</link>
		<dc:creator>Edrei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 25 May 2008 06:45:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Guilt is irrelevant. Sometimes the best things in life to do are those that we need to do and want to do. Doing things out of anything else but our own desire to do them will only be painful, wasteful and meaningless.

If you want to do what you need to do, you'll find a good way around to do them regardless of what stands in your way. Even if you haven't a single inkling and even if make so many mistakes along the way. You trust yourself to see it through.

I guess that's how I've lead my life. Changing habits or making new ones regardless depends on how much I wanted to change. They stuck because I want them to stick. I guess I didn't think of whether or not I'll go back to what was before. I just...went with the flow.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Guilt is irrelevant. Sometimes the best things in life to do are those that we need to do and want to do. Doing things out of anything else but our own desire to do them will only be painful, wasteful and meaningless.</p>
<p>If you want to do what you need to do, you&#8217;ll find a good way around to do them regardless of what stands in your way. Even if you haven&#8217;t a single inkling and even if make so many mistakes along the way. You trust yourself to see it through.</p>
<p>I guess that&#8217;s how I&#8217;ve lead my life. Changing habits or making new ones regardless depends on how much I wanted to change. They stuck because I want them to stick. I guess I didn&#8217;t think of whether or not I&#8217;ll go back to what was before. I just&#8230;went with the flow.</p>
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