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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/03/19/when-is-enough-truly-enough/#comment-39293</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:46:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zeitlos: Aha. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeitlos: Aha. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Zeitlos</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/03/19/when-is-enough-truly-enough/#comment-39289</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeitlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 13:09:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, as the teacher was not in the room at that moment some other fellows offered to beat him up. But I rather turned down that favor...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, as the teacher was not in the room at that moment some other fellows offered to beat him up. But I rather turned down that favor&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/03/19/when-is-enough-truly-enough/#comment-39258</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Mar 2008 01:54:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nils: &lt;blockquote&gt;See, you can never beat these guys.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

It can be done, it's just not particularly easy. :P

Zeitlos: That fellow does indeed sound scary. I'm surprised he didn't get into trouble for his remark to you; that's a threat, isn't it? 

Good for your professor; I wish mine would do that. I'd clap, and I'd wager most of the class would, too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nils:<br />
<blockquote>See, you can never beat these guys.</p></blockquote>
<p>It can be done, it&#8217;s just not particularly easy. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Zeitlos: That fellow does indeed sound scary. I&#8217;m surprised he didn&#8217;t get into trouble for his remark to you; that&#8217;s a threat, isn&#8217;t it? </p>
<p>Good for your professor; I wish mine would do that. I&#8217;d clap, and I&#8217;d wager most of the class would, too.</p>
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		<title>By: Zeitlos</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/03/19/when-is-enough-truly-enough/#comment-39228</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeitlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 16:51:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like somebody from my "Early American Literatur" class has started to study on your university...This guy was really...scary would be the right description. I had translation class with and he sat right in front of me. One day we were working silently on a translation and when more an more people finished their work they started talking to their neighbours. I did so too, silently. Suddenly that guy turned around and shouted at me: "Keep your mouth shut or I'll rearrange your face!"
Well, that story was a little bit of topic, but it helps to get an impression of that guy. He did just the same thing like your co-student in that literature class, interrupted the professor, acting like a know-it-all especially about religious topics. After two or three weeks the professor told him, that he is the teacher and if the student thinks otherwise he should leave class. Guess what: Everybody started clapping their hands!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like somebody from my &#8220;Early American Literatur&#8221; class has started to study on your university&#8230;This guy was really&#8230;scary would be the right description. I had translation class with and he sat right in front of me. One day we were working silently on a translation and when more an more people finished their work they started talking to their neighbours. I did so too, silently. Suddenly that guy turned around and shouted at me: &#8220;Keep your mouth shut or I&#8217;ll rearrange your face!&#8221;<br />
Well, that story was a little bit of topic, but it helps to get an impression of that guy. He did just the same thing like your co-student in that literature class, interrupted the professor, acting like a know-it-all especially about religious topics. After two or three weeks the professor told him, that he is the teacher and if the student thinks otherwise he should leave class. Guess what: Everybody started clapping their hands!</p>
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		<title>By: Nils Geylen</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/03/19/when-is-enough-truly-enough/#comment-39166</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils Geylen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 05:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Yeah, but assuming that Mo'd gone to heaven or hell, that would have been in the 7th C already. He wouldn't have that still coming. Or perhaps the guy's referring to the last judgement which supposedly arrives in the year 2000. No, wait... See, you can never beat these guys.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Yeah, but assuming that Mo&#8217;d gone to heaven or hell, that would have been in the 7th C already. He wouldn&#8217;t have that still coming. Or perhaps the guy&#8217;s referring to the last judgement which supposedly arrives in the year 2000. No, wait&#8230; See, you can never beat these guys.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/03/19/when-is-enough-truly-enough/#comment-39142</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 21 Mar 2008 02:29:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cyrris: Most (all?) of his comments are assinine, but that one seemed to really push the limit with me. Maybe I was just particularly fed up with him that day. And indeed, you're right - the fact is, he's burning up our class time with his idiocy. I've already spoken to one other guy in class who is pretty tired of the fellow, and I'm sure I can round up a few more. 

Nils: I think he was implying that when Mohammed gets to heaven, he'll "have something coming" - i.e., Mohammed'll end up in hell for his actions. Or something like that. You know I'm not exactly up-to-speed on Biblical.. stuff. :)

Regarding what he's doing in college: well, I've just told you! Being a pain in the ass. ;) Seriously, though, I'm not sure what he's majoring in. Maybe he's taking history courses in the hope of backing up his Biblical ideas; I truly don't know.

Tom: She's told him such things repeatedly, I'm afraid. He often asks her questions (usually out of the blue) about modern countries. He asked one about modern Libya a while back, and on another day, he started ranting about how the United States was going down because everything was being made in China, and if we lost our imports from them we'd all die a horrible death, and... well, you get the idea. If his question is on topic but is covered in the lecture, she says to basically "hang in there", because the answer is coming. If it's off-topic, she tells him we can't really discuss it in the class, because she needs to stick to the syllabus. On one occasion he got vaguely angry and said he'd just shut up for the rest of the course (a wonderful idea, in my opinion), but we'll see if it actually pans out.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cyrris: Most (all?) of his comments are assinine, but that one seemed to really push the limit with me. Maybe I was just particularly fed up with him that day. And indeed, you&#8217;re right - the fact is, he&#8217;s burning up our class time with his idiocy. I&#8217;ve already spoken to one other guy in class who is pretty tired of the fellow, and I&#8217;m sure I can round up a few more. </p>
<p>Nils: I think he was implying that when Mohammed gets to heaven, he&#8217;ll &#8220;have something coming&#8221; - i.e., Mohammed&#8217;ll end up in hell for his actions. Or something like that. You know I&#8217;m not exactly up-to-speed on Biblical.. stuff. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Regarding what he&#8217;s doing in college: well, I&#8217;ve just told you! Being a pain in the ass. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> Seriously, though, I&#8217;m not sure what he&#8217;s majoring in. Maybe he&#8217;s taking history courses in the hope of backing up his Biblical ideas; I truly don&#8217;t know.</p>
<p>Tom: She&#8217;s told him such things repeatedly, I&#8217;m afraid. He often asks her questions (usually out of the blue) about modern countries. He asked one about modern Libya a while back, and on another day, he started ranting about how the United States was going down because everything was being made in China, and if we lost our imports from them we&#8217;d all die a horrible death, and&#8230; well, you get the idea. If his question is on topic but is covered in the lecture, she says to basically &#8220;hang in there&#8221;, because the answer is coming. If it&#8217;s off-topic, she tells him we can&#8217;t really discuss it in the class, because she needs to stick to the syllabus. On one occasion he got vaguely angry and said he&#8217;d just shut up for the rest of the course (a wonderful idea, in my opinion), but we&#8217;ll see if it actually pans out.</p>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/03/19/when-is-enough-truly-enough/#comment-39111</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 21:36:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sounds like you've got a "know-it-all" in the class.  Boy how they annoy me.

Ask the prof to remind the class that they can see her at her office hour (if she has one) for longer questions.  And ask her to tell the instigator that whenever he begins a rant.

Usually these people are after the attention, if you can undermine that you'll shut them down quickly.

If you have the time for it, beat him into submission scholastically.  In your case that would require memorizing the bible...  That shuts them up quick too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sounds like you&#8217;ve got a &#8220;know-it-all&#8221; in the class.  Boy how they annoy me.</p>
<p>Ask the prof to remind the class that they can see her at her office hour (if she has one) for longer questions.  And ask her to tell the instigator that whenever he begins a rant.</p>
<p>Usually these people are after the attention, if you can undermine that you&#8217;ll shut them down quickly.</p>
<p>If you have the time for it, beat him into submission scholastically.  In your case that would require memorizing the bible&#8230;  That shuts them up quick too.</p>
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		<title>By: Nils Geylen</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/03/19/when-is-enough-truly-enough/#comment-39102</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils Geylen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 20:49:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't even get the remark. Mohammed is dead as far as I know. What the frak does he have coming? Better still, what the frak is that guy doing in college?

But my advice would be very similar to Cyrris's. Form an alliance, see the teach and tell her your paying good money to hear her lecture about something you have an interest in and need to build a career on, not some lout wasting everybody's time and effort.

If that doesn't work, consider going higher up. This looks as if it's becoming ridiculous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t even get the remark. Mohammed is dead as far as I know. What the frak does he have coming? Better still, what the frak is that guy doing in college?</p>
<p>But my advice would be very similar to Cyrris&#8217;s. Form an alliance, see the teach and tell her your paying good money to hear her lecture about something you have an interest in and need to build a career on, not some lout wasting everybody&#8217;s time and effort.</p>
<p>If that doesn&#8217;t work, consider going higher up. This looks as if it&#8217;s becoming ridiculous.</p>
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		<title>By: Cyrris</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/03/19/when-is-enough-truly-enough/#comment-39052</link>
		<dc:creator>Cyrris</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 20 Mar 2008 07:14:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I don't find the bolded remark particularly interesting. Put in the context of his general assinine behaviour, it seems pretty normal for him. 

And, all put together, should be enough for you to go and have a chat with the lecturer. The fact is, he is wasting valuable class time each and every lesson, which isn't what you pay college fees for.

I'd actually get as many of the other people in the class to join you when you talk to the lecturer too. If there's a group of you, action will have to be taken.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I don&#8217;t find the bolded remark particularly interesting. Put in the context of his general assinine behaviour, it seems pretty normal for him. </p>
<p>And, all put together, should be enough for you to go and have a chat with the lecturer. The fact is, he is wasting valuable class time each and every lesson, which isn&#8217;t what you pay college fees for.</p>
<p>I&#8217;d actually get as many of the other people in the class to join you when you talk to the lecturer too. If there&#8217;s a group of you, action will have to be taken.</p>
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