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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/02/28/the-cellphone-plague/#comment-37292</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 04 Mar 2008 14:21:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zeitlos: Danke für den Link, ich werde ihn bald überprüfen. Ich hoffe, dass alles bei dir und Marcel gut geht!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeitlos: Danke für den Link, ich werde ihn bald überprüfen. Ich hoffe, dass alles bei dir und Marcel gut geht!</p>
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		<title>By: Zeitlos</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/02/28/the-cellphone-plague/#comment-37166</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeitlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 03 Mar 2008 19:49:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This has nothing to do with your latest post, but I thought this might be interesting for you:
http://usaerklaert.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/von-der-amerikanischen-marine-und-ihren-amphibischen-angriffsschiffen/
Ein deutscher Text über das amerikanische Militär :-)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This has nothing to do with your latest post, but I thought this might be interesting for you:<br />
<a href="http://usaerklaert.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/von-der-amerikanischen-marine-und-ihren-amphibischen-angriffsschiffen/" rel="nofollow">http://usaerklaert.wordpress.com/2008/03/03/von-der-amerikanischen-marine-und-ihren-amphibischen-angriffsschiffen/</a><br />
Ein deutscher Text über das amerikanische Militär <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/02/28/the-cellphone-plague/#comment-36677</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Feb 2008 03:14:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;zhayena&lt;/strong&gt;: Yeah, I&#039;ve looked at people strangely before, who were walking and talking (apparently) to themselves. Then I noticed the little tiny headset on their ear. 

Kids (9, 10 years old) have cellphones here, too. I&#039;m not sure how I feel about that. As a parent I can see where it&#039;d be good to be able to get in touch with your kid regardless of where they are, but on the other hand - well, shouldn&#039;t you know where they are &lt;em&gt;anyway&lt;/em&gt;, cellphone or not? 

&lt;strong&gt;Tom&lt;/strong&gt;: I don&#039;t hate cellphones, I hate how they&#039;re everywhere, all the time. ;) 

I think it&#039;s inevitable that having computers, phones, etc. leads to us not learning some skills that people before us took for granted. That&#039;s nothing specific to cellphones or computers, though; any new technology will lead to the atrophying of some skills. The Native Americans largely lost the art of bowmaking in the span of (I believe) a couple of generations after the introduction of firearms via Europeans. 

&lt;strong&gt;Joshua&lt;/strong&gt;: I had no idea who Lobot was. I recognized him after a quick Google search, but I certainly didn&#039;t know hiw name. :) Hopefully we&#039;ll never reach his level! Too weird.

&lt;strong&gt;Nils&lt;/strong&gt;: I agree, it&#039;s not something many people think about anymore. The phones are there, everyone uses them, and it&#039;s seen as normal to do so. I suppose you&#039;re right; I may have been a bit harsh. Certainly, they &lt;em&gt;can&lt;/em&gt; complement other forms of communication. My gripe, though, is just what you said: people don&#039;t really think about it anymore, they&#039;re on autopilot to grab their phone whenever it rings, regardless of what they&#039;re doing. Some of that comes from the very nature of cellphones; most people grow up &quot;knowing&quot; that when the phone rings, generally, you &lt;em&gt;answer it&lt;/em&gt;, then and there. 

Unfortunately, since cellphones are with their owners practically around the clock, there&#039;s never any respite. Regardless of where folks are, they&#039;ve got their cellphones, and many people are still running on their long-learned habits: the phone rings and you answer it. 

I can see the relationship between cellphones and IM, but I&#039;m not sure IMing is quite as bad. If I leave an IM app running on my computer, and I have a friend over and we&#039;re talking, if someone pings me on the IM, I &lt;em&gt;don&#039;t&lt;/em&gt; say, &quot;Hey, can you hang on a few minutes, I have to take this IM.&quot; I get that quite often with folks and their cellphones. Drives me bonkers. :) 

Currently, though, I&#039;d just be happy if my fellow classmates would turn the things off during class. I&#039;ve considered buying some foam bricks to hurl at people when their phones go off for the 2nd or 3rd time in a 50 minute time period.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>zhayena</strong>: Yeah, I&#8217;ve looked at people strangely before, who were walking and talking (apparently) to themselves. Then I noticed the little tiny headset on their ear. </p>
<p>Kids (9, 10 years old) have cellphones here, too. I&#8217;m not sure how I feel about that. As a parent I can see where it&#8217;d be good to be able to get in touch with your kid regardless of where they are, but on the other hand &#8211; well, shouldn&#8217;t you know where they are <em>anyway</em>, cellphone or not? </p>
<p><strong>Tom</strong>: I don&#8217;t hate cellphones, I hate how they&#8217;re everywhere, all the time. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>I think it&#8217;s inevitable that having computers, phones, etc. leads to us not learning some skills that people before us took for granted. That&#8217;s nothing specific to cellphones or computers, though; any new technology will lead to the atrophying of some skills. The Native Americans largely lost the art of bowmaking in the span of (I believe) a couple of generations after the introduction of firearms via Europeans. </p>
<p><strong>Joshua</strong>: I had no idea who Lobot was. I recognized him after a quick Google search, but I certainly didn&#8217;t know hiw name. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Hopefully we&#8217;ll never reach his level! Too weird.</p>
<p><strong>Nils</strong>: I agree, it&#8217;s not something many people think about anymore. The phones are there, everyone uses them, and it&#8217;s seen as normal to do so. I suppose you&#8217;re right; I may have been a bit harsh. Certainly, they <em>can</em> complement other forms of communication. My gripe, though, is just what you said: people don&#8217;t really think about it anymore, they&#8217;re on autopilot to grab their phone whenever it rings, regardless of what they&#8217;re doing. Some of that comes from the very nature of cellphones; most people grow up &#8220;knowing&#8221; that when the phone rings, generally, you <em>answer it</em>, then and there. </p>
<p>Unfortunately, since cellphones are with their owners practically around the clock, there&#8217;s never any respite. Regardless of where folks are, they&#8217;ve got their cellphones, and many people are still running on their long-learned habits: the phone rings and you answer it. </p>
<p>I can see the relationship between cellphones and IM, but I&#8217;m not sure IMing is quite as bad. If I leave an IM app running on my computer, and I have a friend over and we&#8217;re talking, if someone pings me on the IM, I <em>don&#8217;t</em> say, &#8220;Hey, can you hang on a few minutes, I have to take this IM.&#8221; I get that quite often with folks and their cellphones. Drives me bonkers. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  </p>
<p>Currently, though, I&#8217;d just be happy if my fellow classmates would turn the things off during class. I&#8217;ve considered buying some foam bricks to hurl at people when their phones go off for the 2nd or 3rd time in a 50 minute time period.</p>
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		<title>By: Nils Geylen</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/02/28/the-cellphone-plague/#comment-36637</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils Geylen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:38:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There may have been a time when using a mobile used to be something out of the ordinary, especially in an environment where you wouldn&#039;t expect it, i.e. students at a university.

I think the point is, however, that these days, using technology for nearly everything has become second nature to us. We don&#039;t think: &quot;who should use this, what are the benefits, can I do this&quot; like we did when we first bought some new-fangled gadget.

Now, the thing&#039;s there and it&#039;s how things are done. They don&#039;t necessarily replace other ways of communication, but complement them (I&#039;m fairly sure a lot of people with mobile phones &lt;em&gt;do&lt;/em&gt; still talk to others face to face). Not using a mobile, then, would be like not sending an IM to someone just because you knew you could as easily walk over to their desk. We&#039;re just using what&#039;s available to its fullest potential.

As for setting the things to vibrate, or even switching them off at times, I agree. You just &lt;em&gt;know&lt;/em&gt; there are certain situations, like class, where taking a call mid-lecture is something you just don&#039;t do.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There may have been a time when using a mobile used to be something out of the ordinary, especially in an environment where you wouldn&#8217;t expect it, i.e. students at a university.</p>
<p>I think the point is, however, that these days, using technology for nearly everything has become second nature to us. We don&#8217;t think: &#8220;who should use this, what are the benefits, can I do this&#8221; like we did when we first bought some new-fangled gadget.</p>
<p>Now, the thing&#8217;s there and it&#8217;s how things are done. They don&#8217;t necessarily replace other ways of communication, but complement them (I&#8217;m fairly sure a lot of people with mobile phones <em>do</em> still talk to others face to face). Not using a mobile, then, would be like not sending an IM to someone just because you knew you could as easily walk over to their desk. We&#8217;re just using what&#8217;s available to its fullest potential.</p>
<p>As for setting the things to vibrate, or even switching them off at times, I agree. You just <em>know</em> there are certain situations, like class, where taking a call mid-lecture is something you just don&#8217;t do.</p>
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		<title>By: Joshua J. Slone</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/02/28/the-cellphone-plague/#comment-36634</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua J. Slone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 21:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Lobot takes offense.</description>
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		<title>By: Tom</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/02/28/the-cellphone-plague/#comment-36628</link>
		<dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 20:25:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Too true.  I&#039;m glad to hear there are others that hate cell phones.  

I sometimes daydream of a world without cell phones.  I grew up in a computer-filled world and I sometimes think that it may have robbed me of learning some skills and abilities (discipline to remember spelling for example).  I often think then how the cellphone-filled world will rear the next generation, what will they perhaps be missing if everything can be done by phone.

Anyway, a good read.  Ditto on the cellphones in lecture, very rude and annoying.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Too true.  I&#8217;m glad to hear there are others that hate cell phones.  </p>
<p>I sometimes daydream of a world without cell phones.  I grew up in a computer-filled world and I sometimes think that it may have robbed me of learning some skills and abilities (discipline to remember spelling for example).  I often think then how the cellphone-filled world will rear the next generation, what will they perhaps be missing if everything can be done by phone.</p>
<p>Anyway, a good read.  Ditto on the cellphones in lecture, very rude and annoying.</p>
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		<title>By: zhayena</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2008/02/28/the-cellphone-plague/#comment-36615</link>
		<dc:creator>zhayena</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Feb 2008 18:26:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My husband is one of those who always use bluetooth headsets; He uses his cellphone to listen to podcasts, and walks around the house acting like a lunatic: laughing at what to us seems like nothing. 

In Norway even kids (9 - 10 and up) have cellphones, so I&#039;m trying to get used to it, even if I&#039;m one of those that misplace mine all the time. I really don&#039;t want to be available all the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My husband is one of those who always use bluetooth headsets; He uses his cellphone to listen to podcasts, and walks around the house acting like a lunatic: laughing at what to us seems like nothing. </p>
<p>In Norway even kids (9 &#8211; 10 and up) have cellphones, so I&#8217;m trying to get used to it, even if I&#8217;m one of those that misplace mine all the time. I really don&#8217;t want to be available all the time.</p>
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