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	<title>Comments on: Happy Turkey Day!</title>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/11/22/happy-turkey-day/#comment-24777</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 00:32:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Daniel: Welcome to the site. I&#039;m glad you found the site helpful.

@Nils: Finals are killing me. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Daniel: Welcome to the site. I&#8217;m glad you found the site helpful.</p>
<p>@Nils: Finals are killing me. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Nils</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/11/22/happy-turkey-day/#comment-24747</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Nov 2007 19:08:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Not a problem Josh. Glad you enjoyed yourself. You take care with all that work okay? Cheers.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Not a problem Josh. Glad you enjoyed yourself. You take care with all that work okay? Cheers.</p>
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		<title>By: daniel hamilton</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/11/22/happy-turkey-day/#comment-24603</link>
		<dc:creator>daniel hamilton</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 23:23:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That web site was quite a find. I wanted the true story and suspected there would be propa-ganda on either side, which was especially true by the latter day historical revisionists. Thanks.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That web site was quite a find. I wanted the true story and suspected there would be propa-ganda on either side, which was especially true by the latter day historical revisionists. Thanks.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/11/22/happy-turkey-day/#comment-24547</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Nov 2007 13:35:05 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Nils. Sorry for the delay in responding; the end of the semester is approaching, and I am duly being pounded by catch-up work. :)

I did indeed have a good one. Our family gathering on Saturday was a ton of fun; lots of laughs, lots of good food. There was one negative to it, if you can call it a negative, but I&#039;m going to be quiet about that, because it&#039;s going to be a post. 

I understand what you&#039;re saying, and I pretty much agree. I&#039;m &lt;em&gt;glad&lt;/em&gt; I have a job; that I&#039;m in school. But thankful? That&#039;s iffy. I have a job and I&#039;m in school because I busted my butt to get both. I am, however, generally thankful for things that I like but didn&#039;t have any influence over: I don&#039;t write books, so I&#039;m thankful that other folks do so I can read them, etc. etc.

&lt;blockquote&gt;Hell, even the French revolutionaries realized the need for annual “markers” that bring people together&lt;/blockquote&gt;

At least for my family, that&#039;s pretty much what Thanksgiving is anymore. We don&#039;t sit around and talk about all of the things we&#039;re thankful for; we get together, eat good food, and talk / laugh a lot. While I&#039;m sure the generalization wouldn&#039;t hold for all American families, I&#039;d say that&#039;s what Thanksgiving is to many of them anymore.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Nils. Sorry for the delay in responding; the end of the semester is approaching, and I am duly being pounded by catch-up work. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I did indeed have a good one. Our family gathering on Saturday was a ton of fun; lots of laughs, lots of good food. There was one negative to it, if you can call it a negative, but I&#8217;m going to be quiet about that, because it&#8217;s going to be a post. </p>
<p>I understand what you&#8217;re saying, and I pretty much agree. I&#8217;m <em>glad</em> I have a job; that I&#8217;m in school. But thankful? That&#8217;s iffy. I have a job and I&#8217;m in school because I busted my butt to get both. I am, however, generally thankful for things that I like but didn&#8217;t have any influence over: I don&#8217;t write books, so I&#8217;m thankful that other folks do so I can read them, etc. etc.</p>
<blockquote><p>Hell, even the French revolutionaries realized the need for annual “markers” that bring people together</p></blockquote>
<p>At least for my family, that&#8217;s pretty much what Thanksgiving is anymore. We don&#8217;t sit around and talk about all of the things we&#8217;re thankful for; we get together, eat good food, and talk / laugh a lot. While I&#8217;m sure the generalization wouldn&#8217;t hold for all American families, I&#8217;d say that&#8217;s what Thanksgiving is to many of them anymore.</p>
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		<title>By: Nils</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/11/22/happy-turkey-day/#comment-24191</link>
		<dc:creator>Nils</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Nov 2007 21:15:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hope you had a good one, Josh.

I suppose TG is, like many holidays we have here, whether we share them or not, an incentive to think about things - Remembrance Day, Christmas, whatever - even if you don&#039;t subscribe to some, or most, of the sentiments expressed, or the traditions that come with them.

Hell, even the French revolutionaries realized the need for annual &quot;markers&quot; that bring people together - for which see: my excellent post I did on the subject once, being a top notch 9ruler and all ;-)

So, for me it&#039;s hard to &quot;get&quot; the concept of being thankful for things around me that weren&#039;t specifically &quot;given&quot; to me. I can be thankful for a beer or a hug, but for the world I live in...

Mm, let me try and rephrase...

I&#039;m happy I don&#039;t live in a shit country where there&#039;s floods or bombings or dictators. I thank the people in generations before me who fought and died for that. And I&#039;m happy &quot;to be in a job and in a bed&quot; (Les Miz, not mine).

Still not sure this is convincing enough... I waver. I&#039;ll try again.

It&#039;s just that I have a hard time being thankful for things that have a lot to do with myself: the job, I worked hard for to convince my boss and to keep at it, the bed I nearly lost at times but I fought hard against adversity and inner demons to keep it (and when I mean bed, I mean the home and the fact that I&#039;m not on the streets -  not the actual mattress)...

Oh, I don&#039;t know. Crazy, existentialist European I guess :-)

I get what you mean, though, and I think you&#039;re cool for realizing what you have. Let&#039;s conclude by simply repeating how I started: hope you had a good one! I mean that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hope you had a good one, Josh.</p>
<p>I suppose TG is, like many holidays we have here, whether we share them or not, an incentive to think about things &#8211; Remembrance Day, Christmas, whatever &#8211; even if you don&#8217;t subscribe to some, or most, of the sentiments expressed, or the traditions that come with them.</p>
<p>Hell, even the French revolutionaries realized the need for annual &#8220;markers&#8221; that bring people together &#8211; for which see: my excellent post I did on the subject once, being a top notch 9ruler and all <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>So, for me it&#8217;s hard to &#8220;get&#8221; the concept of being thankful for things around me that weren&#8217;t specifically &#8220;given&#8221; to me. I can be thankful for a beer or a hug, but for the world I live in&#8230;</p>
<p>Mm, let me try and rephrase&#8230;</p>
<p>I&#8217;m happy I don&#8217;t live in a shit country where there&#8217;s floods or bombings or dictators. I thank the people in generations before me who fought and died for that. And I&#8217;m happy &#8220;to be in a job and in a bed&#8221; (Les Miz, not mine).</p>
<p>Still not sure this is convincing enough&#8230; I waver. I&#8217;ll try again.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s just that I have a hard time being thankful for things that have a lot to do with myself: the job, I worked hard for to convince my boss and to keep at it, the bed I nearly lost at times but I fought hard against adversity and inner demons to keep it (and when I mean bed, I mean the home and the fact that I&#8217;m not on the streets &#8211;  not the actual mattress)&#8230;</p>
<p>Oh, I don&#8217;t know. Crazy, existentialist European I guess <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':-)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>I get what you mean, though, and I think you&#8217;re cool for realizing what you have. Let&#8217;s conclude by simply repeating how I started: hope you had a good one! I mean that.</p>
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