Comments on: Chased down by the preacher http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/ Sun, 10 Jul 2011 21:12:16 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.1.3 By: Nils http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1362 Nils Tue, 14 Aug 2007 19:25:48 +0000 http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1362 Just heard a nice one: philosophy is speculation, zen is participation. No idea what this could mean (esp. in this case) or what it implies for religion (c.q. christianity). But still, it sounds good. I know you like to ask questions (as much, or more even, than me) but remember: this is not going to be a dialogue among equals. If he has specific questions that trouble him in life, advise him, otherwise, I wouldn't go. Just heard a nice one: philosophy is speculation, zen is participation. No idea what this could mean (esp. in this case) or what it implies for religion (c.q. christianity). But still, it sounds good.

I know you like to ask questions (as much, or more even, than me) but remember: this is not going to be a dialogue among equals. If he has specific questions that trouble him in life, advise him, otherwise, I wouldn’t go.

]]> By: Johnny Relentless http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1361 Johnny Relentless Tue, 14 Aug 2007 01:03:41 +0000 http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1361 I know how you feel. I am Jewish, and I always hold back when speaking with Rabbis because I don't want to offend. Even more importantly, I don't want to say anything that might shake someone else's beliefs. That's probably not too easy to do, but you never know. My arguments seem too logical to ignore. But I think (especially if he asked you), it's ok to express your feelings/beliefs to him. I'm sure he's heard it all before. If I thought he was trying to convert me, I would love to offend, but since it seems that he is responding to questions you were asking, he probably deserves to be heard. I thought that Budhism was compatible with other religions. Is that not true? I thought that nothing in Budhism prohibits, or even discourages following another religion? Although I know that most religions don't feel that the reverse is true. I know how you feel. I am Jewish, and I always hold back when speaking with Rabbis because I don’t want to offend. Even more importantly, I don’t want to say anything that might shake someone else’s beliefs. That’s probably not too easy to do, but you never know. My arguments seem too logical to ignore. But I think (especially if he asked you), it’s ok to express your feelings/beliefs to him. I’m sure he’s heard it all before.

If I thought he was trying to convert me, I would love to offend, but since it seems that he is responding to questions you were asking, he probably deserves to be heard.

I thought that Budhism was compatible with other religions. Is that not true? I thought that nothing in Budhism prohibits, or even discourages following another religion? Although I know that most religions don’t feel that the reverse is true.

]]> By: Justin Kilcher http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1360 Justin Kilcher Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:20:56 +0000 http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1360 While I may not consider myself a "Buddhist" my philosophies for life largely stem from Buddhist thought and teachings. To this day I havent had a negative family experience because my father used to be into Buddhism and my mom is pretty apathetic to religion but I loathe when the topic comes up with anyone else. Ive had a few friends, many whom I respect a great deal, question why I abandoned my somewhat Christian upbringing and your really tip-toeing over landmines when you try to explain. Its kind of hard to say to someone nicely: "wake up! your religion is nothing but a carbon copy of almost every religion that existed before "christ" and nothing about any of the stories, the bible, etc.. is completely unique." So as long as they stay civil with me I stay civil back. Once I feel like Im being put on the defensive and they dont let up thats when Ill start coming at them offensively. But for the most part that never happens. Good luck with that situation. While I may not consider myself a “Buddhist” my philosophies for life largely stem from Buddhist thought and teachings. To this day I havent had a negative family experience because my father used to be into Buddhism and my mom is pretty apathetic to religion but I loathe when the topic comes up with anyone else. Ive had a few friends, many whom I respect a great deal, question why I abandoned my somewhat Christian upbringing and your really tip-toeing over landmines when you try to explain. Its kind of hard to say to someone nicely: “wake up! your religion is nothing but a carbon copy of almost every religion that existed before “christ” and nothing about any of the stories, the bible, etc.. is completely unique.” So as long as they stay civil with me I stay civil back. Once I feel like Im being put on the defensive and they dont let up thats when Ill start coming at them offensively. But for the most part that never happens. Good luck with that situation.

]]> By: Josh http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1359 Josh Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:51:40 +0000 http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1359 Tom: Good point. I suppose he <em>did</em> ask me to talk with him. From the Catholic point of view, why was Christ sent to earth? Stavanger: I simply refuse to talk to door-to-door missionaries, regardless of what denomination they are. Mike: True. I'm sure he's been told off a time or two. :) Cas: I've spoken to him briefly before, and I've been around him an awful lot (due to being around him with m'mom), and I really doubt he'll end up insulting me. He is, without a doubt, the most understanding / tolerant Christian preacher I've ever met in my life. I will indeed be honest with him, even if that means I have to say "I have no idea." And also - why hello, Rogue. :) Great pic. Tom: Good point. I suppose he did ask me to talk with him.

From the Catholic point of view, why was Christ sent to earth?

Stavanger: I simply refuse to talk to door-to-door missionaries, regardless of what denomination they are.

Mike: True. I’m sure he’s been told off a time or two. :)

Cas: I’ve spoken to him briefly before, and I’ve been around him an awful lot (due to being around him with m’mom), and I really doubt he’ll end up insulting me. He is, without a doubt, the most understanding / tolerant Christian preacher I’ve ever met in my life. I will indeed be honest with him, even if that means I have to say “I have no idea.”

And also – why hello, Rogue. :) Great pic.

]]> By: Cas http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1358 Cas Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:11:01 +0000 http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1358 And look - updated gravatar, just for you ;) And look – updated gravatar, just for you ;)

]]> By: Cas http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1357 Cas Mon, 13 Aug 2007 17:10:42 +0000 http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1357 The guy is a preacher - he's trained to have these conversations. You're probably more in danger of him insulting you than the other way round. All you can do in the situation is be honest with him. If he's worth his salt then he'll appreciate it. The guy is a preacher – he’s trained to have these conversations. You’re probably more in danger of him insulting you than the other way round. All you can do in the situation is be honest with him. If he’s worth his salt then he’ll appreciate it.

]]> By: Mike http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1356 Mike Mon, 13 Aug 2007 16:52:52 +0000 http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1356 I agree with tom. He has probably heard a lot worse then what you are going to tell him. I agree with tom. He has probably heard a lot worse then what you are going to tell him.

]]> By: Stavanger http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1355 Stavanger Mon, 13 Aug 2007 14:05:14 +0000 http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1355 Yes that and those door-to-door missionaries. Yes that and those door-to-door missionaries.

]]> By: Tom http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1354 Tom Mon, 13 Aug 2007 13:25:00 +0000 http://system13.org/2007/08/13/chased-down-by-the-preacher/#comment-1354 He asked you for an interview right? When people ask for your opinion never be afraid to give it. The only time you should feel timid about sharing your views is when you impose them on others, but never when you're asked for them. As a side note, in the Catholic tradition Christ was not put on this earth to "feel what its like to suffer." ;) He asked you for an interview right? When people ask for your opinion never be afraid to give it. The only time you should feel timid about sharing your views is when you impose them on others, but never when you’re asked for them.

As a side note, in the Catholic tradition Christ was not put on this earth to “feel what its like to suffer.” ;)

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