I posted a few days back about the Buddhist group I’m in, and the ups and downs that group has experienced. This is a bit of a continuation of that post, with some random thoughts and comments thrown in for good measure.
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Our group met two evenings ago, on Tuesday, at the conference room of a hotel, where one of our members is the general manager. It was the first time we met at this location. In the past, we’ve met in the conference rooms at a local library. The switch from a library conference room to the hotel conference room would be a good one, if we had to stick with it, which we don’t (more on that shortly).
The meeting went quite well. One thing I was quite happy about was that four of us made it – in the past, we’ve generally had either two of us sitting, or perhaps three, if our schedules fell into place correctly, all of the planets were aligned, etc. We sat for 15 minutes, took a short break and discussed a few things, then sat for another 15 minutes.
Before the other two fellows arrived, Jeff (the general manager) and I spoke about the group, where we’d like to see it move, and so on. We were in agreement that we’d like the group to meet more often for sits. In the past, we’ve been limited by the library’s rules, specifically the one which states that you can only use one of their conference rooms once a month. Being a small group and having no funds available for group stuff, we’ve thus been meeting for sits only once a month. For discussions and general get-togethers, we’ve met a bit more often, using a local café.
The hotel conference room was nice, and fine for a meditation session. The only problem with it (if one can even really classify it as a problem) is that it’s not exactly close to any of us. It’s on one of the highways heading out of town, and for the three of us who live in town, it’s about a 20 minute drive. For the other guy, who lives out of town, on the other side of it, it’s more like half an hour. Certainly, we’re not talking huge commutes, but something closer would be nice. Jeff realized this, and was nice enough to offer up his home, in town, for our meetings. Using his house, we’ll be able to meet weekly.
Before I could bring up the topic of our group actively studying Buddhism, Jeff brought it up. He thought that perhaps incorporating a brief reading into our sits would be good, maybe a sutra that we could all meditate on. I thought it sounded like a good idea. We also discussed the issue of feeling like we’re on an ocean with no guide. None of us are very advanced in our practice, which has led to us just kind of floundering about in the water, wondering where to go. Again, Jeff had a solution. Apparently he’ll be frequently going to a larger city near us in the coming months, in which there’s a long-running Buddhist study / meditation group. He’s going to see if one of their more advanced members could come down to our town occasionally, perhaps once every month or two, to have a “class” of sorts. I thought this sounded great.
I suppose I keep thinking about something Drew, my professor, told me. He told me that he read in a newspaper that four people started a small meditation / study group (I can’t recall where it was, sadly). Initially, they met where ever they could – library rooms, parks, whatever.
Fast forward two years: they now have a meditation hall, around 50 regular members, and are a non-profit organization. They have services throughout the week, regular classes, etc.
Small steps, Josh. Small steps.
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During our break between sitting sessions, we discussed a few things:
- I commented that when I first start a sitting session, I often feel like I’m leaning – a lot. Usually, I feel like I’m leaning to the left, almost to the point of falling over. If I try to correct this posture problem, I find that I’m not leaning at all. No one else had experienced that. After 5 minutes or so, the sensation goes away. How about you folks? Are any of my readers meditators? If you are, do you often feel like you’re the Leaning Tower of Pisa?
- Chris experienced something different, but similar. He said he often feels like he’s rocking back and forth slightly. When he goes to correct it, he finds he’s not actually moving.
- We talked a bit about whether or not we keep our eyes open during meditation. Some of us do, some of us don’t (I don’t). Jeff, who keeps his eyes partially open and focuses on something about 6 feet away from him, remarked that if he isn’t diligent in being aware of what’s going on, he’ll find himself seeing all sorts of things that aren’t there. For example, he said that while looking at the carpet Tuesday night, he started seeing faces, animals, etc. in the carpet pattern. Drew, who was facing the television in the conference room, said he felt like he was watching TV, then realized that it wasn’t even on. I suppose those two experiences show what your mind will do when you try to calm it down. It’s a bit like when you’re trying to get a small child to go to sleep: they’ll do anything they can think of to stay awake. Slap themselves, babble, kick, etc.I personally keep my eyes closed because of similar issues. I don’t necessarily “see” things like that, but I do find that if my eyes are open, my eyes have a tendency to wander, seeking out objects. Before I realize it, my mind’s off in left field (or not even in the stadium anymore), thinking about something that was vaguely related to something I looked at.
- We talked briefly after the second sitting session about how odd our perception of time can be. Both sessions were 15 minutes long. The first session felt like it lasted more like 20-30 minutes; the second session felt like it lasted 5 or 10 minutes, tops. This was something that we all generally noticed. No idea why.
Congrats on your first sit together… may there be many more!
Couple of reflections – take ‘em or leave ‘em…
I wonder if 15 minute sessions are long enough? Look, it’s much better to be sitting for any time rather than none! My experience is that I struggle to sit at home for more than, say 20-25 minutes (I’m deeply undisciplined) but with the presence and encouragement of a group, I really don’t struggle at all with our two 30-minute sessions. And on those times when I do struggle a bit, it’s the presence of the others with me that gets me through it. I’m not saying you should all jump straight in and do a hour’s sit each night, but I just wonder if two 15-minute sessions aren’t a little ‘bitty’. Perhaps one 30-minute session? Just a thought.
If you’re going to have a break, might it not be a good idea to not talk in the middle, but perhaps just take a few minutes to stretch your legs quietly, etc, maybe a few mins walking meditation, and then get back to sitting? I’d worry that my mind would race off in the second session with all the groovy stuff we’d been discussing!
Jeff seems like a good sort! If weekly meetings at his place are more convenient than a trek out of town each week, it’ll be easier to get your head down & your arse on the cushion
Small steps!
All the best to you and the rest of your group.
Hi Taisen,
This actually wasn’t our first sit together; it was just our first meeting at the hotel conference room. We’ve sat many times before.
I agree – we need to up the time. When we began late last year, we sat 15 minutes, walked 5, then sat for another 15. We did this because we were all out of practice, and hadn’t been sitting regularly. However, at this point, I think we need to increase the time to 20-30 minutes.
Also, good point about the discussing during the break. I’ll bring it up next week at our meeting; perhaps we can save all of our discussion for after our sit. That of course depends on how long everyone wants to stick around, but I’d be up for it.
Thanks for the encouragement!
Hmmm… if I’d read the original post more carefully…!
Not a problem, Taisen.