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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/04/19/enders-game/#comment-815</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 21:39:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Ok, so perhaps I wasnâ€™t very clear on the differences, but I didnâ€™t want to spoil anything&lt;/em&gt;
No problem, I appreciate the discretion. :)

Also:

&lt;em&gt;â€œletâ€™s kill the buggers!â€&lt;/em&gt;

Hmm, yeah. I guess I can see how the form of their name could progress via that path.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Ok, so perhaps I wasnâ€™t very clear on the differences, but I didnâ€™t want to spoil anything</em><br />
No problem, I appreciate the discretion. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
Also:</p>
<p><em>â€œletâ€™s kill the buggers!â€</em></p>
<p>Hmm, yeah. I guess I can see how the form of their name could progress via that path.</p>
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		<title>By: Cas</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/04/19/enders-game/#comment-811</link>
		<dc:creator>Cas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:33:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ok, so perhaps I wasn't very clear on the differences, but I didn't want to spoil anything (I have a bad habit of giving things away without meaning too).

And as for Buggers... the more I think about it, the more I like it. It's common to attribute slang and derivative terms to enemies, especially in the military. It's quite easy to imagine that they were first called "Bugs" or something, then that slipped into "buggers" because, well, "let's kill the buggers!" has quite a ring to it. Then it got used so much, it just lost all associated meaning and became just their name. If they ever had a 'proper' name, it was forgotten.

Anyway, that's how I see the progression of the name and make it make sense to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ok, so perhaps I wasn&#8217;t very clear on the differences, but I didn&#8217;t want to spoil anything (I have a bad habit of giving things away without meaning too).</p>
<p>And as for Buggers&#8230; the more I think about it, the more I like it. It&#8217;s common to attribute slang and derivative terms to enemies, especially in the military. It&#8217;s quite easy to imagine that they were first called &#8220;Bugs&#8221; or something, then that slipped into &#8220;buggers&#8221; because, well, &#8220;let&#8217;s kill the buggers!&#8221; has quite a ring to it. Then it got used so much, it just lost all associated meaning and became just their name. If they ever had a &#8216;proper&#8217; name, it was forgotten.</p>
<p>Anyway, that&#8217;s how I see the progression of the name and make it make sense to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/04/19/enders-game/#comment-810</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 20:28:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Cas: Actually, I did listen. ;) You said:

&lt;blockquote&gt;...Speaker and to an even greater extent Xenocide, donâ€™t follow directly from Ender.&lt;/blockquote&gt;

I took that to mean that it was set in the future, and was more adult-oriented than Ender's Game. However, I expected it to be the same TYPE of book, and it is not. I expected it to be about Ender being an adult, leading another fleet in a war, etc. Obviously, it was quite a surprise to find that the book is more of an anthropological look at an alien species, and the human community that lives near it.

Regarding the Buggers... well, even if they DO look like bugs, they could have opted to call them "insectoids" or just "insects", or even "bugs". All of those still sound better than "buggers"! :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Cas: Actually, I did listen. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> You said:</p>
<blockquote><p>&#8230;Speaker and to an even greater extent Xenocide, donâ€™t follow directly from Ender.</p></blockquote>
<p>I took that to mean that it was set in the future, and was more adult-oriented than Ender&#8217;s Game. However, I expected it to be the same TYPE of book, and it is not. I expected it to be about Ender being an adult, leading another fleet in a war, etc. Obviously, it was quite a surprise to find that the book is more of an anthropological look at an alien species, and the human community that lives near it.</p>
<p>Regarding the Buggers&#8230; well, even if they DO look like bugs, they could have opted to call them &#8220;insectoids&#8221; or just &#8220;insects&#8221;, or even &#8220;bugs&#8221;. All of those still sound better than &#8220;buggers&#8221;! <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /></p>
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		<title>By: Cas</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/04/19/enders-game/#comment-813</link>
		<dc:creator>Cas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 18:21:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Told you Speaker was different. Did you listen, clearly not :P

And I agree with Erin. Yes, they are silly names, but what else would you call them? The "Buggers" cannot communicate with humanity in anyway till Ender comes along. How were humans to learn a suitable name for them?

But yes, I always found 'Buggers' a bit of an odd name myself. Perhaps it's because I AM British, every time I read it I go "stop swearing!"</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Told you Speaker was different. Did you listen, clearly not <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_razz.gif' alt=':P' class='wp-smiley' /><br />
And I agree with Erin. Yes, they are silly names, but what else would you call them? The &#8220;Buggers&#8221; cannot communicate with humanity in anyway till Ender comes along. How were humans to learn a suitable name for them?</p>
<p>But yes, I always found &#8216;Buggers&#8217; a bit of an odd name myself. Perhaps it&#8217;s because I AM British, every time I read it I go &#8220;stop swearing!&#8221;</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/04/19/enders-game/#comment-814</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:54:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That's a good observation about the names of the alien races. I hadn't considered that. 

I'm about 80 pages into &lt;em&gt;Speaker for the Dead&lt;/em&gt; now, and thoroughly enjoying it. I expected a book that was very similar to &lt;em&gt;Ender's Game&lt;/em&gt;, but it's not at all; it is, however, still excellent.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s a good observation about the names of the alien races. I hadn&#8217;t considered that. </p>
<p>I&#8217;m about 80 pages into <em>Speaker for the Dead</em> now, and thoroughly enjoying it. I expected a book that was very similar to <em>Ender&#8217;s Game</em>, but it&#8217;s not at all; it is, however, still excellent.</p>
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		<title>By: Erin</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/04/19/enders-game/#comment-812</link>
		<dc:creator>Erin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 20 Apr 2007 14:45:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Ender's Game&lt;/em&gt; is one of my favorite books of all time. I've read it no less than 15 times, and have read the other 3 books in the series at least 5 times each. &lt;em&gt;Speaker for the Dead&lt;/em&gt; is my favorite, followed by &lt;em&gt;The Children of the Mind&lt;/em&gt;. 

I think the "silly" names for the aliens may have been completely purposeful... as if Card is trying to show that humans still see themselves as superior to other sentient beings. Just a thought.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Ender&#8217;s Game</em> is one of my favorite books of all time. I&#8217;ve read it no less than 15 times, and have read the other 3 books in the series at least 5 times each. <em>Speaker for the Dead</em> is my favorite, followed by <em>The Children of the Mind</em>. </p>
<p>I think the &#8220;silly&#8221; names for the aliens may have been completely purposeful&#8230; as if Card is trying to show that humans still see themselves as superior to other sentient beings. Just a thought.</p>
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