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		<title>By: Alan</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/19/skepticism-and-buddhism/comment-page-1/#comment-52026</link>
		<dc:creator>Alan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 13 Nov 2008 01:17:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi.
I found this page due to the same research after have seen the article on wikipedia.
I'd like to coment that he seems to have died very young, he had a condition afterall he was in the hospital, but I can't find out what he died of. I'm very skeptic of them not mentioning it on wiki.
I just wondered because it would be a little strange in case of cancer or something like that since his mind and body should be perfectly ballanced, or so I tought. 

some other thing, in wiki they talk about a triple rainbow on his funeral, I've just seen a footage in a documentary and I've only seen a faint ½ rainbow. 
I'm sure if it had been a triple, they'd had filmed it 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duOh1rfdG5I&#38;feature=related

I wan't to believe, but with this lack of objectivity I remain skeptic on this issue. 

sorry about my english.

btw I'm not anti budhism. I'm just not a fan of organized religion</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi.<br />
I found this page due to the same research after have seen the article on wikipedia.<br />
I&#8217;d like to coment that he seems to have died very young, he had a condition afterall he was in the hospital, but I can&#8217;t find out what he died of. I&#8217;m very skeptic of them not mentioning it on wiki.<br />
I just wondered because it would be a little strange in case of cancer or something like that since his mind and body should be perfectly ballanced, or so I tought. </p>
<p>some other thing, in wiki they talk about a triple rainbow on his funeral, I&#8217;ve just seen a footage in a documentary and I&#8217;ve only seen a faint ½ rainbow.<br />
I&#8217;m sure if it had been a triple, they&#8217;d had filmed it<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duOh1rfdG5I&amp;feature=related" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=duOh1rfdG5I&amp;feature=related</a></p>
<p>I wan&#8217;t to believe, but with this lack of objectivity I remain skeptic on this issue. </p>
<p>sorry about my english.</p>
<p>btw I&#8217;m not anti budhism. I&#8217;m just not a fan of organized religion</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/19/skepticism-and-buddhism/comment-page-1/#comment-9178</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 19:55:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;em&gt;Why are â€˜miraclesâ€™ only ever witnessed by one or two people, and the evidence never kept around?&lt;/em&gt;

Because it's far easier to keep a lie going when only one or two people know about it. :) That's not a negative response, by the way, just a realistic one. I think most miracles can't be substantiated by a large group of people, because most (all?) miracles haven't really happened to begin with. 

And indeed - a wonder cure for all of our problems would be great, but I don't think even Mork could hook us up with such a thing.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><em>Why are â€˜miraclesâ€™ only ever witnessed by one or two people, and the evidence never kept around?</em></p>
<p>Because it&#8217;s far easier to keep a lie going when only one or two people know about it. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> That&#8217;s not a negative response, by the way, just a realistic one. I think most miracles can&#8217;t be substantiated by a large group of people, because most (all?) miracles haven&#8217;t really happened to begin with. </p>
<p>And indeed - a wonder cure for all of our problems would be great, but I don&#8217;t think even Mork could hook us up with such a thing.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Relentless</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/19/skepticism-and-buddhism/comment-page-1/#comment-9109</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Relentless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 01:58:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why are 'miracles' only ever witnessed by one or two people, and the evidence never kept around? I think the only large-scale miracles that many people witnessed, happened to the Israelites, and that book is so old no one can really know what happened. Skepticism is a good thing, although I would love to have my belief systems shaken up by the witnessing of a miracle. Or at least something paranormal. Meeting friendly aliens with a wonder cure for all our problems would be ok with me, too. I'd even settle for Mork from Ork.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why are &#8216;miracles&#8217; only ever witnessed by one or two people, and the evidence never kept around? I think the only large-scale miracles that many people witnessed, happened to the Israelites, and that book is so old no one can really know what happened. Skepticism is a good thing, although I would love to have my belief systems shaken up by the witnessing of a miracle. Or at least something paranormal. Meeting friendly aliens with a wonder cure for all our problems would be ok with me, too. I&#8217;d even settle for Mork from Ork.</p>
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		<title>By: mdejess</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/19/skepticism-and-buddhism/comment-page-1/#comment-717</link>
		<dc:creator>mdejess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 23:25:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, Josh. I really look forward to your replies, for I can use some feedbacks from guys like you for my own use in getting a grip on what life is all about.

So far it is just keeping alive and healthy and living long good years, and then dying without causing but the least inconvenience to others.

Yes, I try also to extend some help to other people, by giving my own ideas of a good life if they ask me.


I wish other guys would join us here, of the same mentality and writing habit as ours -- so far, and I hope we continue to be civil and cordial.


mdejess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks, Josh. I really look forward to your replies, for I can use some feedbacks from guys like you for my own use in getting a grip on what life is all about.</p>
<p>So far it is just keeping alive and healthy and living long good years, and then dying without causing but the least inconvenience to others.</p>
<p>Yes, I try also to extend some help to other people, by giving my own ideas of a good life if they ask me.</p>
<p>I wish other guys would join us here, of the same mentality and writing habit as ours &#8212; so far, and I hope we continue to be civil and cordial.</p>
<p>mdejess</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/19/skepticism-and-buddhism/comment-page-1/#comment-718</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 21:51:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mdejess: That's a good question, one which I'll answer in a blog post in a day or two. My response will probably be a bit long winded to stuff it all in a comment here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mdejess: That&#8217;s a good question, one which I&#8217;ll answer in a blog post in a day or two. My response will probably be a bit long winded to stuff it all in a comment here.</p>
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		<title>By: mdejess</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/19/skepticism-and-buddhism/comment-page-1/#comment-722</link>
		<dc:creator>mdejess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Apr 2007 11:11:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have some ideas I would like to test with you.


What do you find useful in Buddhism which you do not find or not as useful in Christianity?

No, I am not taking up the defense of Christianity, but just curious why Buddhism has found favor with supposedly intellectuals of the West, some minority of them but visible.

While I am sure there must be also a visible number although a minority of Buddhists also going over to Christianity.

And I would like to ask them similarly what they find in Christianity that is better for them than their own born into Buddhism.

Mdejess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have some ideas I would like to test with you.</p>
<p>What do you find useful in Buddhism which you do not find or not as useful in Christianity?</p>
<p>No, I am not taking up the defense of Christianity, but just curious why Buddhism has found favor with supposedly intellectuals of the West, some minority of them but visible.</p>
<p>While I am sure there must be also a visible number although a minority of Buddhists also going over to Christianity.</p>
<p>And I would like to ask them similarly what they find in Christianity that is better for them than their own born into Buddhism.</p>
<p>Mdejess</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/19/skepticism-and-buddhism/comment-page-1/#comment-721</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 22:16:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>mdejess: Ultimately, I agree with you. In all of the places where I've found information about this, the feeling I've had is that it was placed there to "impress", to display that, in some way or another, Buddhist / meditaiton masters function in ways that "normal" people don't. I've looked around some more about this occurrence after I wrote this post, and I've not found anything at all that is a reliable source. For the time being, I'm just going to chalk it up as.. well, Buddhist superstition. If the chief of staff from that hospital gets in touch with me, I'll be willing to change my stance.

Regarding as to whether Buddhism is useful to an individual, I would say "yes", but I'm a Buddhist, so I have a bit of bias. :) You can follow the Buddhist teachings without having to believe in such stories as I wrote about in the post above. 

Also, regarding moderation: be assured, it was automated, and not my doing. I'm not sure why WordPress.com decided your comments needed to be moderated. You didn't use any links, you didn't use any words that spammers use a lot (no viagra, gambling, etc.). In short, I have no idea why that happened. :) As you can see, I didn't change anything in 'em. 

Hope to hear back from you!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>mdejess: Ultimately, I agree with you. In all of the places where I&#8217;ve found information about this, the feeling I&#8217;ve had is that it was placed there to &#8220;impress&#8221;, to display that, in some way or another, Buddhist / meditaiton masters function in ways that &#8220;normal&#8221; people don&#8217;t. I&#8217;ve looked around some more about this occurrence after I wrote this post, and I&#8217;ve not found anything at all that is a reliable source. For the time being, I&#8217;m just going to chalk it up as.. well, Buddhist superstition. If the chief of staff from that hospital gets in touch with me, I&#8217;ll be willing to change my stance.</p>
<p>Regarding as to whether Buddhism is useful to an individual, I would say &#8220;yes&#8221;, but I&#8217;m a Buddhist, so I have a bit of bias. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> You can follow the Buddhist teachings without having to believe in such stories as I wrote about in the post above. </p>
<p>Also, regarding moderation: be assured, it was automated, and not my doing. I&#8217;m not sure why WordPress.com decided your comments needed to be moderated. You didn&#8217;t use any links, you didn&#8217;t use any words that spammers use a lot (no viagra, gambling, etc.). In short, I have no idea why that happened. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> As you can see, I didn&#8217;t change anything in &#8216;em. </p>
<p>Hope to hear back from you!</p>
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		<title>By: mdejess</title>
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		<dc:creator>mdejess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:30:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"Your comment is awaiting moderation."


Well, that is interesting.

I always write without using uncivil language.

But even without writing in uncivil language I have met with censorship and exclusion from forums because I exercise a critical judgment.

So, I am interested to find out how the moderation of my comment will turn out.

mdejess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Your comment is awaiting moderation.&#8221;</p>
<p>Well, that is interesting.</p>
<p>I always write without using uncivil language.</p>
<p>But even without writing in uncivil language I have met with censorship and exclusion from forums because I exercise a critical judgment.</p>
<p>So, I am interested to find out how the moderation of my comment will turn out.</p>
<p>mdejess</p>
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		<title>By: mdejess</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/19/skepticism-and-buddhism/comment-page-1/#comment-720</link>
		<dc:creator>mdejess</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 31 Mar 2007 21:25:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This piece of literature is of course beyond investigation now unless we exhume the remains of the subject, R. R. Dorje.

But its purpose is to confirm to believers that a Buddhist monk and leader died supposedly a strange kind of death or displayed a strange kind of death appearance, and therefore Buddhism must be worth whatever the advocates of Buddhism want to understand worth.

If you read accounts of the death of celebrities of other religions, you will come across such descriptive narratives intended certainly to impress upon readers that the system represented by the demised celebrities is worthy of acceptance and observance by people.

That is the only purpose served by the account of the strange conditions surrounding the cadaver of R. R. Dorje.

HOwever, Buddhist converts from the West of science and rational philosophy and scientific skepticism must ask themselves what is the usefulness to themselves of embracing Buddhism.

Shall we have a discussion on the usefulness of Buddhism to an individual and to a group and to society?


mdejess</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This piece of literature is of course beyond investigation now unless we exhume the remains of the subject, R. R. Dorje.</p>
<p>But its purpose is to confirm to believers that a Buddhist monk and leader died supposedly a strange kind of death or displayed a strange kind of death appearance, and therefore Buddhism must be worth whatever the advocates of Buddhism want to understand worth.</p>
<p>If you read accounts of the death of celebrities of other religions, you will come across such descriptive narratives intended certainly to impress upon readers that the system represented by the demised celebrities is worthy of acceptance and observance by people.</p>
<p>That is the only purpose served by the account of the strange conditions surrounding the cadaver of R. R. Dorje.</p>
<p>HOwever, Buddhist converts from the West of science and rational philosophy and scientific skepticism must ask themselves what is the usefulness to themselves of embracing Buddhism.</p>
<p>Shall we have a discussion on the usefulness of Buddhism to an individual and to a group and to society?</p>
<p>mdejess</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
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		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Mar 2007 20:29:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nicely put Nils. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nicely put Nils. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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