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		<title>By: Mike</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/03/on-buddhism-and-weight-loss/#comment-831</link>
		<dc:creator>Mike</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 01 Feb 2009 05:46:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Learn to let go of the feelings that cause you to overeat and or crave so called bad foods- don&#039;t try to release them, just observe them as they are, and they will lessen in strength and float away on their own.  Take your time. Be gentle to yourself, don&#039;t try to do all of this too soon, just allow it to happen.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Learn to let go of the feelings that cause you to overeat and or crave so called bad foods- don&#8217;t try to release them, just observe them as they are, and they will lessen in strength and float away on their own.  Take your time. Be gentle to yourself, don&#8217;t try to do all of this too soon, just allow it to happen.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/03/on-buddhism-and-weight-loss/#comment-830</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 19 Feb 2008 21:34:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Pete,

Yeah, the subconscious eating habits that I have are tricky to deal with, too. I&#039;ve found myself wandering to the kitchen to get something to eat just from &lt;em&gt;boredom&lt;/em&gt;, or as just to be doing something. I think my mom also did a bit of what you&#039;re talking about, are you hungry, do you need something to eat, etc. So whenever I&#039;d feel the slightest bit of hunger - off to the kitchen!

Good point about the fixed ideas about exercise (or anything, really!) To be fair, I think having the idea of 40 minutes to an hour as &quot;an exercise session&quot; is partly due to the stuff we read about exercise routines. That&#039;s the typical amount of time the literature professes - at least half an hour, 45 minutes or an hour being ideal. Then we get it stuck in our head that it&#039;s either &lt;em&gt;that&lt;/em&gt; or nothing at all, which is nonsense. Sure, one big block is better, especially for aerobic exercise, but if you&#039;ve got 2 separate blocks of 15 minutes, doing exercise in those blocks is better than none at all. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Pete,</p>
<p>Yeah, the subconscious eating habits that I have are tricky to deal with, too. I&#8217;ve found myself wandering to the kitchen to get something to eat just from <em>boredom</em>, or as just to be doing something. I think my mom also did a bit of what you&#8217;re talking about, are you hungry, do you need something to eat, etc. So whenever I&#8217;d feel the slightest bit of hunger &#8211; off to the kitchen!</p>
<p>Good point about the fixed ideas about exercise (or anything, really!) To be fair, I think having the idea of 40 minutes to an hour as &#8220;an exercise session&#8221; is partly due to the stuff we read about exercise routines. That&#8217;s the typical amount of time the literature professes &#8211; at least half an hour, 45 minutes or an hour being ideal. Then we get it stuck in our head that it&#8217;s either <em>that</em> or nothing at all, which is nonsense. Sure, one big block is better, especially for aerobic exercise, but if you&#8217;ve got 2 separate blocks of 15 minutes, doing exercise in those blocks is better than none at all. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Pete</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/03/on-buddhism-and-weight-loss/#comment-829</link>
		<dc:creator>Pete</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 17 Feb 2008 20:50:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a similar experience myself and also have been relating it to buddhism in some ways. One of the tricky bits is all the subconscious habits I have picked up over the years about what I eat, when I eat, how much I eat, how quickly I eat, etc. It can be quite tricky to untangle these. For example my mum was a child during the rationing in the war, so she grew up with a habit of always trying to make sure everyone is well fed, and always offering snacks, sandwiches, etc. between meals. As a consequence I eventually recognised a related habit in myself - if I felt the slightest bit hungry I would immediately resort to some sort of snack. Nowdays I&#039;ve learnt to be a bit more resilient and have the time and patience to think a bit more deeply about what, when and how much to eat, and not just to blindly react to the urge so quickly.

On the exercise front there are similar habits to conquer - e.g. I went through a phase of being really good and going to the gym regularly and doing a good 1-2 hour session. I also got an elliptical trainer which I used a lot, usually fo 40 minutes at a time. Then I went through a phase where I was more stressed and had less energy, and ended up not doing anything. The eventual lesson I figured out was that I&#039;d built up a fixed idea of an exercise session being a major effort of 40+ minutes, so if I didn&#039;t feel upto it I didn&#039;t do anything at all and just felt guilty or frustrated about it. Now I&#039;ve figured out how to be kinder to myself and accept that if I&#039;m not feeling so energetic then 10 or 20 minutes is still okay, and that this is a lot better than nothing. So now I do this every day, and more often than not, I get into it and start enjoying it and end up doing 40+ minutes anyway. But if I only manage 10 after a tough day at work, then I don&#039;t beat my self up over it, so it&#039;s easier to enjoy it and accept the experience as-is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a similar experience myself and also have been relating it to buddhism in some ways. One of the tricky bits is all the subconscious habits I have picked up over the years about what I eat, when I eat, how much I eat, how quickly I eat, etc. It can be quite tricky to untangle these. For example my mum was a child during the rationing in the war, so she grew up with a habit of always trying to make sure everyone is well fed, and always offering snacks, sandwiches, etc. between meals. As a consequence I eventually recognised a related habit in myself &#8211; if I felt the slightest bit hungry I would immediately resort to some sort of snack. Nowdays I&#8217;ve learnt to be a bit more resilient and have the time and patience to think a bit more deeply about what, when and how much to eat, and not just to blindly react to the urge so quickly.</p>
<p>On the exercise front there are similar habits to conquer &#8211; e.g. I went through a phase of being really good and going to the gym regularly and doing a good 1-2 hour session. I also got an elliptical trainer which I used a lot, usually fo 40 minutes at a time. Then I went through a phase where I was more stressed and had less energy, and ended up not doing anything. The eventual lesson I figured out was that I&#8217;d built up a fixed idea of an exercise session being a major effort of 40+ minutes, so if I didn&#8217;t feel upto it I didn&#8217;t do anything at all and just felt guilty or frustrated about it. Now I&#8217;ve figured out how to be kinder to myself and accept that if I&#8217;m not feeling so energetic then 10 or 20 minutes is still okay, and that this is a lot better than nothing. So now I do this every day, and more often than not, I get into it and start enjoying it and end up doing 40+ minutes anyway. But if I only manage 10 after a tough day at work, then I don&#8217;t beat my self up over it, so it&#8217;s easier to enjoy it and accept the experience as-is.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/03/on-buddhism-and-weight-loss/#comment-828</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Oct 2007 13:53:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks for the support, Jennifer. I&#039;ll check the site out. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thanks for the support, Jennifer. I&#8217;ll check the site out. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Jennifer</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/03/on-buddhism-and-weight-loss/#comment-827</link>
		<dc:creator>Jennifer</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Oct 2007 21:12:44 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You can do it!  If you ever want extra support, here is a site that has helped many including myself.  All the best.  I also love food journaling and I also keep my workouts in it too.... It keeps me honest with myself.  All the best !</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You can do it!  If you ever want extra support, here is a site that has helped many including myself.  All the best.  I also love food journaling and I also keep my workouts in it too&#8230;. It keeps me honest with myself.  All the best !</p>
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		<title>By: James Mathias</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/03/on-buddhism-and-weight-loss/#comment-825</link>
		<dc:creator>James Mathias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 04:58:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>That&#039;s the same dude, yup. Cool, I didn&#039;t know he went by so many names! Thanks for the link, love learning new stuff.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>That&#8217;s the same dude, yup. Cool, I didn&#8217;t know he went by so many names! Thanks for the link, love learning new stuff.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/03/on-buddhism-and-weight-loss/#comment-816</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Mar 2007 03:15:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Ah, okay! That makes sense. I was totally confused...

Is this ChiChe you&#039;re talking about also known as Hotei or Budai, or is that another entity altogether? &lt;a href=&quot;http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budai&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;This&lt;/a&gt; is the fellow I&#039;m thinking of.

Thanks for the heads up on the post about dieting and eating. I look forward to it. However, you won&#039;t have to notify my here (unless you really want to). I&#039;ve been subscribed to your feed for a while now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Ah, okay! That makes sense. I was totally confused&#8230;</p>
<p>Is this ChiChe you&#8217;re talking about also known as Hotei or Budai, or is that another entity altogether? <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Budai" rel="nofollow">This</a> is the fellow I&#8217;m thinking of.</p>
<p>Thanks for the heads up on the post about dieting and eating. I look forward to it. However, you won&#8217;t have to notify my here (unless you really want to). I&#8217;ve been subscribed to your feed for a while now.</p>
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		<title>By: James Mathias</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/03/on-buddhism-and-weight-loss/#comment-821</link>
		<dc:creator>James Mathias</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Mar 2007 21:14:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Josh, I think he&#039;s referring to the Chinese representation of a Buddha, whom is often depicted as a &quot;Fat, Happy Man&quot; carrying a large bag or surrounded by or sitting atop many bags of gold. 

And although this happens to be the most recognizable version of a Buddha in the West, he is not actually a depiction of The Buddha, but of the Chinese monk ChiChe Which literally means &quot;Knowing This&quot; who reached enlightenment through study and practice, but lived from 850 BC to 916 BC, which is 400 plus years after Siddhartha Gautama passed. He was also known as Pu-Tai and or Mi-Le-Fo which mean cloth sack, referring to the bag he carried.

Sorry, but I hear this one a lot especially in Idaho. Folks are always joking about Buddha being fat, when they really are referring to ChiChe.

By the way, I&#039;m working on a blog post that addresses, dieting and eating in general, I&#039;ll comment back here when I post it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Josh, I think he&#8217;s referring to the Chinese representation of a Buddha, whom is often depicted as a &#8220;Fat, Happy Man&#8221; carrying a large bag or surrounded by or sitting atop many bags of gold. </p>
<p>And although this happens to be the most recognizable version of a Buddha in the West, he is not actually a depiction of The Buddha, but of the Chinese monk ChiChe Which literally means &#8220;Knowing This&#8221; who reached enlightenment through study and practice, but lived from 850 BC to 916 BC, which is 400 plus years after Siddhartha Gautama passed. He was also known as Pu-Tai and or Mi-Le-Fo which mean cloth sack, referring to the bag he carried.</p>
<p>Sorry, but I hear this one a lot especially in Idaho. Folks are always joking about Buddha being fat, when they really are referring to ChiChe.</p>
<p>By the way, I&#8217;m working on a blog post that addresses, dieting and eating in general, I&#8217;ll comment back here when I post it.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/03/on-buddhism-and-weight-loss/#comment-824</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 18:55:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heliologue: What&#039;s ironic about being motivated to weight loss by the Buddha? I don&#039;t really follow. :) Buddhism, when you get down to it, is really quite practical. Certain schools are rather esoteric, but mostly, Buddhism is a whole lot of common sense.

Good to hear your dieting has gone well. I&#039;m still struggling a bit to get a regular exercise regime going.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Heliologue: What&#8217;s ironic about being motivated to weight loss by the Buddha? I don&#8217;t really follow. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' />  Buddhism, when you get down to it, is really quite practical. Certain schools are rather esoteric, but mostly, Buddhism is a whole lot of common sense.</p>
<p>Good to hear your dieting has gone well. I&#8217;m still struggling a bit to get a regular exercise regime going.</p>
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		<title>By: Heliologue</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2007/03/03/on-buddhism-and-weight-loss/#comment-823</link>
		<dc:creator>Heliologue</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 08 Mar 2007 16:52:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Something either ironic or entirely apropos about being motivated to weight loss by Buddha...

All snarkiness aside, I too have been watching what I eat for the last 18 months or so.  I&#039;m naturally rail-thin, but I worry about my health (heart, specifically, and also the risk of diabetes), so I&#039;ve been trying to excise as much refined sugar and other crap out of my diet as possible.  And exercising more, although my track record for getting to the gym is spotty at best.

Best of luck to you in your weight loss.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Something either ironic or entirely apropos about being motivated to weight loss by Buddha&#8230;</p>
<p>All snarkiness aside, I too have been watching what I eat for the last 18 months or so.  I&#8217;m naturally rail-thin, but I worry about my health (heart, specifically, and also the risk of diabetes), so I&#8217;ve been trying to excise as much refined sugar and other crap out of my diet as possible.  And exercising more, although my track record for getting to the gym is spotty at best.</p>
<p>Best of luck to you in your weight loss.</p>
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