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	<title>Comments on: What if the Vikings had maintained their presence in the United States?</title>
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		<title>By: Hincks</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/27/what-if-the-vikings-had-maintained-their-presence-in-the-united-states/#comment-66828</link>
		<dc:creator>Hincks</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:55:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am in the fifth grade and doing a report on vikings, and his was relly interesting to me.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am in the fifth grade and doing a report on vikings, and his was relly interesting to me.</p>
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		<title>By: Desktopjunk</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/27/what-if-the-vikings-had-maintained-their-presence-in-the-united-states/#comment-91</link>
		<dc:creator>Desktopjunk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 22 Apr 2007 19:29:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thanks, always good posts on your blog!</description>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/27/what-if-the-vikings-had-maintained-their-presence-in-the-united-states/#comment-89</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 31 Aug 2006 13:23:50 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Zeitlos: some more very interesting questions. The one about the Black Death is really interesting, I think.

And yes, thinking about such things does make boring bus-rides go a bit quicker. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Zeitlos: some more very interesting questions. The one about the Black Death is really interesting, I think.</p>
<p>And yes, thinking about such things does make boring bus-rides go a bit quicker. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Zeitlos</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/27/what-if-the-vikings-had-maintained-their-presence-in-the-united-states/#comment-90</link>
		<dc:creator>Zeitlos</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 18:16:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What if....
....there hadn&#039;t been Black Death in the 14th century?
....Columbus had found the way to India?

That ist really interesting to ask yourself these &quot;what if&quot; questions. A good idea for boring busrides. i love to discuss with myself.

thanx!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What if&#8230;.<br />
&#8230;.there hadn&#8217;t been Black Death in the 14th century?<br />
&#8230;.Columbus had found the way to India?</p>
<p>That ist really interesting to ask yourself these &#8220;what if&#8221; questions. A good idea for boring busrides. i love to discuss with myself.</p>
<p>thanx!</p>
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		<title>By: the ten thousand things and i</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/27/what-if-the-vikings-had-maintained-their-presence-in-the-united-states/#comment-88</link>
		<dc:creator>the ten thousand things and i</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 04:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] if the vikings had set up permanent settlements in north america&#8230; ja, i say! ja! [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] if the vikings had set up permanent settlements in north america&#8230; ja, i say! ja! [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/27/what-if-the-vikings-had-maintained-their-presence-in-the-united-states/#comment-87</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:59:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hm, just found this:

http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_100.html

So, maybe you&#039;re right and I&#039;m wrong. Maybe a bucketload of Native Americans would have died due to disease anyway.

&lt;b&gt;Edit:&lt;/b&gt; While not exactly on topic, this is also interesting:

http://www.native-languages.org/iaq10.htm</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hm, just found this:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_100.html" rel="nofollow">http://www.straightdope.com/classics/a4_100.html</a></p>
<p>So, maybe you&#8217;re right and I&#8217;m wrong. Maybe a bucketload of Native Americans would have died due to disease anyway.</p>
<p><b>Edit:</b> While not exactly on topic, this is also interesting:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.native-languages.org/iaq10.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.native-languages.org/iaq10.htm</a></p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/27/what-if-the-vikings-had-maintained-their-presence-in-the-united-states/#comment-86</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 30 Aug 2006 02:54:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well, the Vikings are well known for:

1. A hell of a lot of traveling.
2. A hell of a lot of intermarrying.

So, it&#039;s not really that far fetched. There might be a similar number of overall deaths, but not on the scale as happened when Columbus and Co. &#039;found&#039; America and started a mass settlement movement. And, like you said, it&#039;d be spread out on a larger time scale (or so I think, anyway). 

But, of course, I could be wrong. I quite often am. :)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well, the Vikings are well known for:</p>
<p>1. A hell of a lot of traveling.<br />
2. A hell of a lot of intermarrying.</p>
<p>So, it&#8217;s not really that far fetched. There might be a similar number of overall deaths, but not on the scale as happened when Columbus and Co. &#8216;found&#8217; America and started a mass settlement movement. And, like you said, it&#8217;d be spread out on a larger time scale (or so I think, anyway). </p>
<p>But, of course, I could be wrong. I quite often am. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: Joshua J. Slone</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/27/what-if-the-vikings-had-maintained-their-presence-in-the-united-states/#comment-85</link>
		<dc:creator>Joshua J. Slone</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 29 Aug 2006 17:25:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was thinking further on your idea that if the Vikings had been around longer in North America, the mass deaths wouldn&#039;t have been so mass.  However, I&#039;m not sure how this would work.  Among the peoples the Vikings interact with, there&#039;d still be deaths due to lack of immunities, which would bring an immunity to that particular group after a generation or so.  However, to make much difference to the entire continent there&#039;d have to be a hell of a lot of traveling, intermarrying, and dominant genery going on in those few centuries.

It seems like there&#039;d be a similar number of deaths, just spread along a longer period of time due to a different pattern of expansion?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was thinking further on your idea that if the Vikings had been around longer in North America, the mass deaths wouldn&#8217;t have been so mass.  However, I&#8217;m not sure how this would work.  Among the peoples the Vikings interact with, there&#8217;d still be deaths due to lack of immunities, which would bring an immunity to that particular group after a generation or so.  However, to make much difference to the entire continent there&#8217;d have to be a hell of a lot of traveling, intermarrying, and dominant genery going on in those few centuries.</p>
<p>It seems like there&#8217;d be a similar number of deaths, just spread along a longer period of time due to a different pattern of expansion?</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/27/what-if-the-vikings-had-maintained-their-presence-in-the-united-states/#comment-84</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:20:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Fixed that for you. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Fixed that for you. <img src='http://system13.org/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
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		<title>By: pieboy</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/27/what-if-the-vikings-had-maintained-their-presence-in-the-united-states/#comment-83</link>
		<dc:creator>pieboy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 28 Aug 2006 18:08:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Okay, I misspelled &quot;sue.&quot; That&#039;s embarrassing.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Okay, I misspelled &#8220;sue.&#8221; That&#8217;s embarrassing.&#8221;</p>
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