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	<title>Comments on: Languages in Stargate SG-1</title>
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		<title>By: Akhen</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/17/languages-in-stargate-sg-1/#comment-50393</link>
		<dc:creator>Akhen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 09 Oct 2008 18:37:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Albert,
If that were true, there definitely would have been an explanation for this.  Either Carter, or McKay or someone would have said, "Did you notice that since we've stepped through the gate into the PEGASUS galaxy, that everyone here speaks Engish, even the Wraith!  I guess it's not a Milky Way thing after all," or something like that.

I like Laura's explanation (see September 17,2006).  I wish they included that in the show somehow.  Perhaps the gate malfunctioned when they went to Abydos, and the language translation didn't happen, or the Goul'd prevented it from working, thereby keeping the population enslaved and under control.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Albert,<br />
If that were true, there definitely would have been an explanation for this.  Either Carter, or McKay or someone would have said, &#8220;Did you notice that since we&#8217;ve stepped through the gate into the PEGASUS galaxy, that everyone here speaks Engish, even the Wraith!  I guess it&#8217;s not a Milky Way thing after all,&#8221; or something like that.</p>
<p>I like Laura&#8217;s explanation (see September 17,2006).  I wish they included that in the show somehow.  Perhaps the gate malfunctioned when they went to Abydos, and the language translation didn&#8217;t happen, or the Goul&#8217;d prevented it from working, thereby keeping the population enslaved and under control.</p>
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		<title>By: albert</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/17/languages-in-stargate-sg-1/#comment-50184</link>
		<dc:creator>albert</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 05 Oct 2008 18:14:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I honestly did not read all the comments, but I think a good solution to this could be that the ancients, knowing that the sg teams are going to fix most of the problems of the galaxies, tampered with some universe laws and make all humans capable of understand each other AND they make them not to notice it

Albert</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I honestly did not read all the comments, but I think a good solution to this could be that the ancients, knowing that the sg teams are going to fix most of the problems of the galaxies, tampered with some universe laws and make all humans capable of understand each other AND they make them not to notice it</p>
<p>Albert</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/17/languages-in-stargate-sg-1/#comment-41867</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 14:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Axis: A lot of it's silly, yeah, but I still enjoy it. Some episodes would definitely get a 4 (or lower!) out of 10, but there have been some I'd given an 8 or 9.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Axis: A lot of it&#8217;s silly, yeah, but I still enjoy it. Some episodes would definitely get a 4 (or lower!) out of 10, but there have been some I&#8217;d given an 8 or 9.</p>
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		<title>By: Axis</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/17/languages-in-stargate-sg-1/#comment-41855</link>
		<dc:creator>Axis</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 04 May 2008 06:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am halfway thru Season 1 and this show has problems. Little teeny glimmers of fun in the midst of alot of dumb crap. I will keep going, thru to season 3 and see if things get better but right now this is lowbrow sci-fi and the lack of translation at this point just underscores the bad writing and lack of talent involved in this project. So far it's maybe 4 out of 10 for me on a rating scale.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am halfway thru Season 1 and this show has problems. Little teeny glimmers of fun in the midst of alot of dumb crap. I will keep going, thru to season 3 and see if things get better but right now this is lowbrow sci-fi and the lack of translation at this point just underscores the bad writing and lack of talent involved in this project. So far it&#8217;s maybe 4 out of 10 for me on a rating scale.</p>
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		<title>By: Akhen</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/17/languages-in-stargate-sg-1/#comment-18989</link>
		<dc:creator>Akhen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Oct 2007 14:25:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I'm not sure about Teal'c's Jaffa planet as a whole, but I know his family are black folk.

And, people who are white probably wouldn't notice this precedent as readily because being white is "normalcy" on TV shows.

Look at that weak ass show, Flash Gordon. Everybody in the other dimension is white.  I think I would have atleast respected it more if everyone was maybe say, Asian looking.  Now, that would have been something different!  

Atleast BSG has some diversity, albeit not much, but it give a depiction of color being a non-issue.  Rather, what planet you came from is the "race".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not sure about Teal&#8217;c&#8217;s Jaffa planet as a whole, but I know his family are black folk.</p>
<p>And, people who are white probably wouldn&#8217;t notice this precedent as readily because being white is &#8220;normalcy&#8221; on TV shows.</p>
<p>Look at that weak ass show, Flash Gordon. Everybody in the other dimension is white.  I think I would have atleast respected it more if everyone was maybe say, Asian looking.  Now, that would have been something different!  </p>
<p>Atleast BSG has some diversity, albeit not much, but it give a depiction of color being a non-issue.  Rather, what planet you came from is the &#8220;race&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/17/languages-in-stargate-sg-1/#comment-18750</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 21 Oct 2007 03:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Akhen: I'd never noticed that, but you're right. The vast majority of folks, regardless of where they're from, are white. 

I've not watched SG1 for a while; are all of Teal'c's kind black, or do I have that mixed up in my head?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Akhen: I&#8217;d never noticed that, but you&#8217;re right. The vast majority of folks, regardless of where they&#8217;re from, are white. </p>
<p>I&#8217;ve not watched SG1 for a while; are all of Teal&#8217;c&#8217;s kind black, or do I have that mixed up in my head?</p>
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		<title>By: Akhen</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/17/languages-in-stargate-sg-1/#comment-18522</link>
		<dc:creator>Akhen</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Oct 2007 17:22:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This topic leads me to something I've thought about for a very long time, and it's not just with Stargate SG1/Atlantis but with other Sci Fi shows as well.  Forget about why everyone speaks English on other planets, but why is it that 90% of the universe is ...dare I say it...white ?

On the first episode of Atlantis, when they showed the ancient ship departing, it was cool, finally, to see people of color being the ancients.  But in subsequent episodes, Ancients are whitefolk.  I think it creates a social staple that says it's normal to be white, but any other color, is something extra, or not of the norm.

Being an American, that ideology being depicted in science fiction shows is just "ass backwards".</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This topic leads me to something I&#8217;ve thought about for a very long time, and it&#8217;s not just with Stargate SG1/Atlantis but with other Sci Fi shows as well.  Forget about why everyone speaks English on other planets, but why is it that 90% of the universe is &#8230;dare I say it&#8230;white ?</p>
<p>On the first episode of Atlantis, when they showed the ancient ship departing, it was cool, finally, to see people of color being the ancients.  But in subsequent episodes, Ancients are whitefolk.  I think it creates a social staple that says it&#8217;s normal to be white, but any other color, is something extra, or not of the norm.</p>
<p>Being an American, that ideology being depicted in science fiction shows is just &#8220;ass backwards&#8221;.</p>
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		<title>By: wibbley wobbley</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/17/languages-in-stargate-sg-1/#comment-10176</link>
		<dc:creator>wibbley wobbley</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Aug 2007 23:49:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>i often think about the whole language thing and, well i think of it like this... people can still go to church every sunday, totally ignoring their monsterous history ie, the crusades, dark ages etc.... space ships don't make any sound in space cuz it's a vacum but we get over it cuz it would sound rubbish on tv if they didn't woosh..!! sometimes we just gotta ignore stuff to get what we want out of it...even the universal translators in star trek are a fair attempt at explaining it u still gota streach your imagination to accept it!!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>i often think about the whole language thing and, well i think of it like this&#8230; people can still go to church every sunday, totally ignoring their monsterous history ie, the crusades, dark ages etc&#8230;. space ships don&#8217;t make any sound in space cuz it&#8217;s a vacum but we get over it cuz it would sound rubbish on tv if they didn&#8217;t woosh..!! sometimes we just gotta ignore stuff to get what we want out of it&#8230;even the universal translators in star trek are a fair attempt at explaining it u still gota streach your imagination to accept it!!</p>
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		<title>By: Josh</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/17/languages-in-stargate-sg-1/#comment-9186</link>
		<dc:creator>Josh</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 20:15:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Johnny: It's been a while since I watched an episode (I really need to get back to watching season 2...), but if I recall correctly, whereas in the movie, every stargate had a different set of symbols, all of the gates in the TV show have the same set. And I'm not sure about the constellations - in the show, they have a sort of "map", with stargate "codes" (basically like telephone numbers). If they explained how the sets of symbols correspond to constellations, I've forgotten the explanation.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Johnny: It&#8217;s been a while since I watched an episode (I really need to get back to watching season 2&#8230;), but if I recall correctly, whereas in the movie, every stargate had a different set of symbols, all of the gates in the TV show have the same set. And I&#8217;m not sure about the constellations - in the show, they have a sort of &#8220;map&#8221;, with stargate &#8220;codes&#8221; (basically like telephone numbers). If they explained how the sets of symbols correspond to constellations, I&#8217;ve forgotten the explanation.</p>
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		<title>By: Johnny Relentless</title>
		<link>http://system13.org/2006/08/17/languages-in-stargate-sg-1/#comment-9097</link>
		<dc:creator>Johnny Relentless</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 13 Aug 2007 00:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I like the idea that the stargates impart the ability to understand and speak other languages, although it would have to be an imperfect, inconsistent technology to explain why they do sometimes have a language barrier. The Ancients, and not the Goa'uld would have to be the ones who created the technology, since they built the stargates, and the Goa'uld are just scavengers of technology.

As for the explanation that the SG-1 team speaks Goa'uldish, they would have to have learned it quickly and fluently, and it still doesn't explain why they can even speak with worlds that have never been enslaved (or even encountered) by the Go'auld.

As for the 'constant military insuboordination' (which is actually pretty rare on the show), those levels of insuboordination and much worse happen all the time in the military. In fact, the Air Force is in many ways one of the more relaxed of the branches. If anything, I always cringe at the fact that Carter seems to think that every time she disagrees with O'Niell in the course os saving their lives, she has to begin with, "With all due respect, Sir..." They also always make a big deal about not using first names, which is not at all unusual, especially among officers. 

In any case, it is really lame that they didn't even attempt an explanation in the very first episode. The original Star Trek series ignored the language problem, too.

I would have liked to see the actors who played their characters in the original movie play their alternate reality versions in one of the alternate reality episodes. Although Carter and T'ealc didn't have counterparts in the original.

Here's a question, though: Are all the stargates' symbols star constellations as seen from Earth?  That seems to be the explanation from the movie, but that seems unlikely, unless the stargate technology was invented on Earth by natives to Earth, which doesn't seem to be the case. I know the series has a different stargate dialing procedure, but I forget what the difference is.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I like the idea that the stargates impart the ability to understand and speak other languages, although it would have to be an imperfect, inconsistent technology to explain why they do sometimes have a language barrier. The Ancients, and not the Goa&#8217;uld would have to be the ones who created the technology, since they built the stargates, and the Goa&#8217;uld are just scavengers of technology.</p>
<p>As for the explanation that the SG-1 team speaks Goa&#8217;uldish, they would have to have learned it quickly and fluently, and it still doesn&#8217;t explain why they can even speak with worlds that have never been enslaved (or even encountered) by the Go&#8217;auld.</p>
<p>As for the &#8216;constant military insuboordination&#8217; (which is actually pretty rare on the show), those levels of insuboordination and much worse happen all the time in the military. In fact, the Air Force is in many ways one of the more relaxed of the branches. If anything, I always cringe at the fact that Carter seems to think that every time she disagrees with O&#8217;Niell in the course os saving their lives, she has to begin with, &#8220;With all due respect, Sir&#8230;&#8221; They also always make a big deal about not using first names, which is not at all unusual, especially among officers. </p>
<p>In any case, it is really lame that they didn&#8217;t even attempt an explanation in the very first episode. The original Star Trek series ignored the language problem, too.</p>
<p>I would have liked to see the actors who played their characters in the original movie play their alternate reality versions in one of the alternate reality episodes. Although Carter and T&#8217;ealc didn&#8217;t have counterparts in the original.</p>
<p>Here&#8217;s a question, though: Are all the stargates&#8217; symbols star constellations as seen from Earth?  That seems to be the explanation from the movie, but that seems unlikely, unless the stargate technology was invented on Earth by natives to Earth, which doesn&#8217;t seem to be the case. I know the series has a different stargate dialing procedure, but I forget what the difference is.</p>
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